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Re: The Latest 1st gen sightings

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:08 am
by gt_james
seemed reasonable price in the end

A700ASF

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:32 pm
by ian65
Anyone want a rusty basket case with a blown engine for 15 hundred quid?

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Sellers description:

“This has been stored for over 10 years, it will require a restoration. Or will be a good source of parts. Engine has compression on one rotor only, I cant get the other rotor to produce compression. Car will tow well, brakes work. Clutch fork is seized, clutch is stuck down, though maybe simply the slave. Pop up light mechanism stiff, popped up then blew a fuse on the way down. All other electrics work though slow or stiff......just needs love! The chassis is essentially sound, yes some rust but not a fail, some welding will be required. Sills appear solid as do the floor pans. Engine bay inner wings are solid. Minor work required to the rear lower quarter panel returns and front floor chassis rails - first 3 inches.”

MAZDA RX7 FB Spares or Repair

This was driven into a garage over 10 years ago and hasn't moved since. Sadly the owner passed away some time ago, so I don't know much about the history. You will have to apply for the V5 as this couldn't be found along with the key. A full receipt will be given. It will cost £55 for a new V5.

This is a rare opportunity to own an RX7 FB.

It is not a basket case, it would make a great spares car or could easily be restored and put back on the road.

Its a complete car, the spoiler was removed for some reason but is in the boot. the drivers door card has also been removed but again is present.

After connecting the battery and removing the ignition barrel switch to manually test the car I found will some encouragement all the electrics work, though the headlamp motor fuse blew whilst operating as the mechanism is partly seized. The engine cranks and the carb supplies fuel. The ignition system provides a spark though the engine does not fire due to a lack of compression on the rear rotor.

The Clutch pedal was stiff due to mechanism corrosion, and is now stuck in the down position. Brakes all work well, it tows well.

Interior is grubby, the drivers seat is worn and saggy, buts its all present and in good condition.

Floor pans are solid, inner and outer sills are solid. it will require some minor welding to the front 3 inches of the floor chassis rails and rear lower quarter panel returns. Most panels are rot free though will have some minor corrosion.

Tyres will hold air for a week or so but are old.

This is still a good car, worth restoring.
Any questions then feel free to ask: Steve 07799887507
£1500 ono

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mazda-RX7-FB- ... SwA3dYSHR-

Re: The Latest 1st gen sightings

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:34 pm
by ian65
gt_james wrote:seemed reasonable price in the end
seemed a lot to me for a car on Vcar

Re: The Latest 1st gen sightings - S2 Bedford A700 ASF

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:07 pm
by DKWW2000

Re: The Latest 1st gen sightings - S2 Bedford A700 ASF

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:32 pm
by KiwiDave
Sane people be like £150 bro' th:

Re: The Latest 1st gen sightings

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:11 am
by gt_james
ian65 wrote:
gt_james wrote:seemed reasonable price in the end
seemed a lot to me for a car on Vcar
What is vcar?

Re: A700ASF

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:13 pm
by spirit r
ian65 wrote:Anyone want a rusty basket case with a blown engine for 15 hundred quid?
The engine cranks and the carb supplies fuel. The ignition system provides a spark though the engine does not fire due to a lack of compression on the rear rotor.
Does not fire?
You can drive your car with the front rotor working only, normally no problem. 50 horsepower are mostly enough for the british speed limit :lol:

Re: The Latest 1st gen sightings

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:29 pm
by A7RXY
gt_james wrote:
ian65 wrote:
gt_james wrote:seemed reasonable price in the end
seemed a lot to me for a car on Vcar
What is vcar?

James https://www.reference.com/vehicles/v-ca ... 7cdeffdf2d


Dibs

Re: The Latest 1st gen sightings

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:04 pm
by gt_james
seemed a lot to me for a car on Vcar[/quote]

What is vcar?[/quote]


James https://www.reference.com/vehicles/v-ca ... 7cdeffdf2d


Dibs[/quote]

so Cat A or B, C or D

Re: The Latest 1st gen sightings

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:56 pm
by ian65
gt_james wrote:What is vcar?
gt_james wrote:so Cat A or B, C or D
yeah, the vehicle condition alert register..... not all cat D cars go on it but most cat C cars certainly will be...
the only exceptions sometimes being where an owner had repaired the car themselves and not gone through the insurance or the car belonged to a hire company like Hertz who self insure their vehicles..... even then the police attending the accident would likely submit a V23 if the car was heavily damaged and so the car would still go on the register.
Once a car is on V-CAR it's on for life and is impossible to get off. This greatly impacts it's value as dealers don't want to touch them and the public usually run a mile from them.

It was brought in to try to stop dodgy characters from putting written off ( and potentially dangerous) cars back on the road and also to tackle the rising car theft problem and car ringers.

Cat C cars were the main problem. Cat A's & B's wouldn't get a new log book but cat C's were heavily damaged to the point that they were beyond economical repair. They could go back on the road though so it was very tempting for rogues to just nick an identical model and ring it with the cat C writeoff.

With these cars being on the register it gave the police a fighting chance to detect this. Cars used to be written off if the cost of the repairs exceeded more than 2/3 the value of the car... it's now if the repairs exceed the full value.
If the police run a nearly new car worth say £25k through the computer and it comes back as on vcar then that car has had over £20K+ worth of damage done to it and yet there it is, looking brand new, driving down the road. 20 grand is a lot of damage so they'd want to have a good look at that car to make sure it wasn't a ringer.

Going back to this blue RX7 D792YLK, when it was written off back in around 2012, at the time it was probably only worth about £1200 so it wouldn't take much damage to it to write it off. The insurance company would base the repair cost on main dealer prices and by the time they'd bought a bonnet, new wing, nose cone, bumper, lights and then paint and labour it would have easily been more than the car was worth.

Unfortunately, it was written off and given a cat C so even if it was restored to make it the best RX7 in the world, it will always be on vcar and so will never be worth anywhere near as much as a car that isn't on the register. You can't restore its history.

It actually had quite a bang and although it was mainly panelwork I'd still want to have a good look at the chassis rails for kinks and to check the door gaps.

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Buying a VCAR is ok if you know what you're getting into.... I've bought a couple in the past just to blast about in but you need to buy them cheap, enjoy them without pouring any more money into them and then sell them cheap. Insurance companies don't like to insure them and the police love to pull them.