Black Elford Turbo

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ian65
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Re: Black Elford Turbo

Post by ian65 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:32 am

codge wrote:You don't need a metal roof if you have a glass one.....
quite right, I've never put my steel roof on in the 4 years I've owned the car..... steel roof panels do come up from time to time and are dirt cheap too.... pointless to try to repair a rusty one. Just bide your time... you will drop on one eventually.
Alternatively give Tim a ring at RX Motors and see what he's got kicking about...

http://rxmotors.co.uk/epages/46d8c57b-7 ... Categories


Any good auto paint factors will mix you some paint to an identical colour to your finished colour and you can then get your replacement roof sprayed anywhere other than by this clown.

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Re: Black Elford Turbo

Post by rip7 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:50 pm

just get your car back. you will only get a bodge job back, if he ever does it ? no point, just get her back.[ i feel your pain]

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Re: Black Elford Turbo

Post by Threesevens » Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:24 pm

Went over to the workshop today.
On the way over I stopped off at Biznatch's (Glyn) because he was going to lend me his rear spats so I could get some copies made. Very good of him.
Got to the workshop and would you believe it the car had been primered. He told him 4 layers of paint had been applied.
The wings and doors are still off the car but he has said all along that he would paint them off the car.
In addition to the work we had agreed he has done quite a bit more in indentifying and repairing hidden pockets of rust. My son who came with me was pretty impressed with the quality of the work particularly where he cut away original body work and welded in new metal. As we all know our cars are great at concealing rust from casual observation despite my car being really solid underneath.
In particular he has repaired the common rust damage area behind the seats and the external part inside the wheel arch.
I have included a photo of the relevant area.
I have also included a couple of photos of the corrosion on the inside of the sunroof panel. The exterior looked in really good nick but it was rotting away inside along the seams all the way round. He has said that if all else fails and I can't source a replacement.
I showed him the rear spats that I borrowed from Glyn and he said he would be able to fabricate copies albeit from metal.
I have been looking around on the web to see if I could get some moulds made but I couldn't find anywhere locally who would make them and i have been told it would be expensive. My son suggested getting them done on a 3D printer but I wouldn't know where to start with that.
Here are the photos of the roof
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The primered car
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Inside the rear wheel arch
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He is going to do some more work on it this week and I am going to see it again on Monday week.
I am seeing some progress and happy with the quality and extent of the repairs but obviously not happy with the time it has taken. My son who is a bigger pessimist than me is saying another month before it is finished, I hope he is right

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Re: Black Elford Turbo

Post by Threesevens » Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:47 pm

codge wrote:You don't need a metal roof if you have a glass one..... Gus is garaged I agree but he only ever goes out in his Sunday Best glass roof.
Tell him he's clutching at straws.

There's "Jessica Investigates" in the Saturday Telegraph, plus that guy on tele who goes round exposing shoddy traders.......this guy is the shoddiest I've ever heard of.
I have only ever had the glass roof in mine but I would still like to have the metal one, but not if it is going to cost an arm and a leg. Codge, he is the most infuriating man I have ever met and the worst business man too and apart from my 2nd wife the biggest liar, and despite wanting to throttle him more than once, I don't dislike him.

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Re: Black Elford Turbo

Post by Threesevens » Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:49 pm

ian65 wrote:
codge wrote:You don't need a metal roof if you have a glass one.....
quite right, I've never put my steel roof on in the 4 years I've owned the car..... steel roof panels do come up from time to time and are dirt cheap too.... pointless to try to repair a rusty one. Just bide your time... you will drop on one eventually.
Alternatively give Tim a ring at RX Motors and see what he's got kicking about...

http://rxmotors.co.uk/epages/46d8c57b-7 ... Categories


Any good auto paint factors will mix you some paint to an identical colour to your finished colour and you can then get your replacement roof sprayed anywhere other than by this clown.
Thanks, I will try Tim

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Re: Black Elford Turbo

Post by codge » Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:43 pm

Would you believe it, that rear arch plate looks good!

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Re: Black Elford Turbo

Post by ian65 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:59 pm

codge wrote:Would you believe it, that rear arch plate looks good!
looks a bit thin to me, is he cutting out the old plate and rust or plating over it?
I'd forget about giving him more work to do making Elford spats out of metal..... you need your car out of there asap..... genuine spats will pop up for sale at some point and will be better than something fabbed up out of metal.

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Re: Black Elford Turbo

Post by Threesevens » Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:34 pm

ian65 wrote:
codge wrote:Would you believe it, that rear arch plate looks good!
looks a bit thin to me, is he cutting out the old plate and rust or plating over it?
I'd forget about giving him more work to do making Elford spats out of metal..... you need your car out of there asap..... genuine spats will pop up for sale at some point and will be better than something fabbed up out of metal.
He has cut out the internal plate but is using the external plate which is still strong and will be fine after a rub down ( a bit like myself). I asked him about the gauge of metal he was using and said it was better than what he had taken off.
Obviously I am concerned about the safety aspects of what he is doing.

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Re: Black Elford Turbo

Post by codge » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:49 am

I've pics of the plates that a Triumph restoration specialist fitted to Gus. They're 'edge returned outwards' which I think gives great extra strength. Worth asking him to do that Tim.

I can't post on here 'cos the resolution seems too high for the Forum upload.

email me Tim and I'll send the pics to you...... dgnock at btopenworld dot com

Cheers

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Re: Black Elford Turbo

Post by Threesevens » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:41 am

I have to admit at last that you were right and I was wrong.
Saw the car early March and it was still in bits. He was still working on some of the rust areas that I mentioned before.
He said it would be 'defo' finished by the end of March.
Of course it wasn't and i exchanged texts with him last week where he said he 'was a very busy man' and that 'I wasn't his only customer'.
I finally realised that if I didn't do something I would go another summer without my car.
I went there yesterday and of course he had hardly done a thing in the last month, although he had made up a fairly decent copy of the rear Elford spats.
I have managed to find someone who has agreed to come and give me an assessment of the cost to finish the job and take it away although he cannot actually do the work until early May.
I have told the current restorer that if he hasn't finished it by end of the month I will take it away.
He has agreed that he will release the car if it isn't finished, but promised it would be. I don't know how many times I have heard him make that promise.
Of course getting the new restorer to finish off someone else's work, where they are not familiar with the vehicle, is going to be problematic so I am sure i might need to get some help from you guys to get the job completed. I hope I can rely on you :)

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